In this debut episode of “In Other Words,” host Charlotte Burns, senior editor at AAP, welcomes artist Tom Sachs and Amy Cappellazzo, co-founder of AAP and co-chair at Sotheby’s, as they examine the relationship between art and brands—both in Tom’s work and in culture at large. The frank and far-reaching conversation touches on everything from which brands Tom has used in his work to the importance of humiliation as well as the best art they’ve seen lately. “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.
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Artist Tom Sachs studied at the Architectural Association in London in 1987, and received his BA from Bennington College in Vermont in 1989. His work is in museum collections internationally including the Museum of Modern Art, New York, the Centre Pompidou, Paris and the Nasa permanent collection, Washington DC. An exhibition of his work, “Radiant City: Paintings 2000-2017” is currently on show at the Herron School of Art and Design while A Space Program, his handmade journey to Mars, is viewable on iTunes. His video Ten Bullets is his guide to studio practice and the artist documents his work on Instagram and Twitter.
Amy Cappellazzo is a Founder and Principal of AAP. She previously served as a market leader in the field of contemporary art during a tenure of almost thirteen years at Christie’s, where she rose to the post of Chairman of Post-War & Contemporary Development.
While at Christie’s, Cappellazzo was a steward for the sale of some of the most important collections of our time, and she continues to act as a fiduciary for numerous families, foundations and trusts. Additionally, she served as a pioneer in private sales at Christie’s as well as online auctions, the latter through a partnership she fostered with the Andy Warhol Foundation for the Visual Arts. During a period when the contemporary art market exploded from what was largely a European and American epicenter to a fully global stage, Cappellazzo directed groundbreaking initiatives at Christie’s that led to record results, with upward of $650m realized in a single evening sale.
Prior to tenure at Christie’s, Cappellazzo was an art advisor, a curator and a key figure in the establishment of Art Basel in Miami Beach.
Cappellazzo received her B.A. in Fine Arts/Art History from New York University, where she was a Presidential Trustee Scholar. She holds a master’s degree in Urban Design from the School of Architecture at Pratt Institute, where she focused on the role of public art in shaping cities. She is a noted Bloomberg expert, speaking internationally on the global art market, and has lectured at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York University, the Museum of Modern Art, the Museum of Fine Arts Boston, UCLA, Stanford University and the Crystal Bridges Museum in Bentonville, Arkansas. In 2012, she was appointed by Governor Andrew Cuomo to serve on the board of the New York State Council on the Arts.
Charlotte Burns is the editor of In Other Words, our weekly newsletters and podcasts. She was previously the US news and market editor for The Art Newspaper, as well as a regular correspondent for publications such as the Guardian and Monocle. Previously, she worked with the London dealer Anthony d’Offay on special projects. For several years, she was a consultant at the cultural communications agency, Bolton & Quinn. She also worked at Hauser & Wirth in London.
Burns received a Masters degree in Art and Cultural Politics in Germany, 1890-1945 from the Courtauld Institute as well as a first-class B.A. honors degree in English and History of Art from Birmingham University. She moved to New York in 2010.
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