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Episode 2: Uncovering the Great Art of the 2000s with David Salle and Alison Gingeras

Why is it so hard to pinpoint the important artists of this period?

BY Charlotte Burns
senior editor at Art Agency, Partners

In this second episode of “In Other Words,” host Charlotte Burns, senior editor at AAP, welcomes artist David Salle, curator Alison Gingeras and Allan Schwartzman, co-founder of AAP and chairman of the Fine Arts Division at Sotheby’s, as they discuss why it’s so difficult to pinpoint the great artists of the 2000s. Part one of a two-part discussion. “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by 

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David Salle


Works by the artist David Salle are in the permanent collections of museums including MoMA, the Whitney, the Guggenheim, the Met, Tate Modern and the Nationalgalerie Berlin. Known as a key figure in the Pictures Generation, a group of artists whose photo-derived work explored how images shape our perceptions of self and of truth, Salle is also a respected writer whose recent book How To See has been widely-praised. Salle, who lives and works in New York, has previously contributed to In Other Words, here.

Alison Gingeras


Alison Gingeras is a curator and writer based in New York and Warsaw. She has organised exhibitions at institutions such as the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, New York; the Centre Georges Pompidou, Paris; and Palazzo Grassi, Venice. In 2012, Alison additionally opened Oko, a small East Village storefront space, in collaboration with Luxembourg & Dayan gallery. Notable museum exhibitions include: Dear Painter, Paint Me: Painting the Figure Since Late Picabia (2003), Daniel Buren Le Musee qui n’existait pas (2002) and Pop Life (2010). In late 2016, she was one of the founders of the political collective HALT Action Group which began the anti-Trump “Dear Ivanka” campaign.  Her writes for publications such as Artforum, Spike and Mousse. Over the past two decades, she has authored scores of essays for artist monographs, critical theory compendiums and exhibition catalogues.  

Allan Schwartzman

co-founder of Art Agency, Partners and chairman of Global Fine Arts at Sotheby's

Allan Schwartzman is a founder of Art Agency, Partners and Chairman, Sotheby’s Fine Arts Division. He has more than 15 years’ experience advising some of the world’s most influential and sophisticated collectors in forming their holdings of contemporary art, both individually and in conjunction with their stewardship of major museums. He is also the creative director and chief curator of Instituto Inhotim, the contemporary art park set within a 5,000-acre botanical garden in Brazil. Trained as an art historian with a B.A. from Vassar College, Schwartzman was a founding staff member of the New Museum of Contemporary Art in New York City and served as curator from 1977 to 1980. He has written extensively about art for publications including The New Yorker and was a contributing editor of Connoisseur. He currently serves on the board of Artists Space.

Charlotte Burns

senior editor at Art Agency, Partners

Charlotte Burns is the editor of In Other Words, our weekly newsletters and podcasts. She was previously the US news and market editor for The Art Newspaper, as well as a regular correspondent for publications such as the Guardian and Monocle. Previously, she worked with the London dealer Anthony d’Offay on special projects. For several years, she was a consultant at the cultural communications agency, Bolton & Quinn. She also worked at Hauser & Wirth in London.

Burns received a Masters degree in Art and Cultural Politics in Germany, 1890-1945 from the Courtauld Institute as well as a first-class B.A. honors degree in English and History of Art from Birmingham University. She moved to New York in 2010.

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Art by David Salle



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