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#2 Uncovering the Great Art of the 2000s with David Salle and Alison Gingeras

Why is it so hard to pinpoint the important artists of this period?


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#2 Uncovering the Great Art of the 2000s with David Salle and Alison Gingeras

BY Charlotte Burns
executive editor of In Other Words

In this second episode of “In Other Words,” host Charlotte Burns, senior editor at AAP, welcomes artist David Salle, curator Alison Gingeras and Allan Schwartzman, co-founder of AAP and chairman of the Fine Arts Division at Sotheby’s, as they discuss why it’s so difficult to pinpoint the great artists of the 2000s. Part one of a two-part discussion. “In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by 

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David Salle


Works by the artist David Salle are in the permanent collections of museums including MoMA, the Whitney, the Guggenheim, the Met, Tate Modern and the Nationalgalerie Berlin. Known as a key figure in the Pictures Generation, a group of artists whose photo-derived work explored how images shape our perceptions of self and of truth, Salle is also a respected writer whose recent book How To See has been widely-praised. Salle, who lives and works in New York, has previously contributed to In Other Words, here.

Alison Gingeras


Alison Gingeras is a curator and writer based in New York and Warsaw. She has organised exhibitions at institutions such as the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, New York; the Centre Georges Pompidou, Paris; and Palazzo Grassi, Venice. In 2012, Alison additionally opened Oko, a small East Village storefront space, in collaboration with Luxembourg & Dayan gallery. Notable museum exhibitions include: Dear Painter, Paint Me: Painting the Figure Since Late Picabia (2003), Daniel Buren Le Musee qui n’existait pas (2002) and Pop Life (2010). In late 2016, she was one of the founders of the political collective HALT Action Group which began the anti-Trump “Dear Ivanka” campaign.  Her writes for publications such as Artforum, Spike and Mousse. Over the past two decades, she has authored scores of essays for artist monographs, critical theory compendiums and exhibition catalogues.  

Allan Schwartzman

Allan Schwartzman was a Founder and Principal of AAP. He brought to the company more than 20 years’ experience in advising some of the world’s most influential and sophisticated collectors in forming their holdings of contemporary art, both individually and in conjunction with their stewardship of major museums.

Schwartzman is also widely respected as an independent curator, most notably for Instituto Inhotim, the visionary contemporary art park set within a 5,000-acre botanical garden in Brazil. As creative director and chief curator of Inhotim, he has been central to developing the collection of the renowned institution and commissioning its signature site-specific works by artists including Chris Burden, Giuseppe Penone, Matthew Barney, Doris Salcedo, Doug Aitken, Rivane Neuenschwander, Olafur Eliasson and Rirkrit Tiravanija, including projects that could not have been realized anywhere else.

Known equally as a tastemaker in contemporary art and an authority on the art market, Schwartzman is a frequent guest speaker and panelist at the Museum of Modern Art, the Guggenheim Museum, Art Basel and notable events around the world.

Schwartzman was a founding staff member of the New Museum of Contemporary Art in New York City and served as curator from 1977 to 1980. He has written extensively about art for publications including The New Yorker, the New York Times, Vogue, Harper’s Bazaar, Elle, Artforum and Art in America and was a contributing editor of Connoisseur. He served as a board member of Franklin Furnace from 1980 to 2000 and currently serves on the Board of Artists Space, one of New York’s premier alternative spaces, having also served as the board’s president.

Charlotte Burns

executive editor of In Other Words

Charlotte Burns is the editor of In Other Words, our weekly newsletters and podcasts. She was previously the US news and market editor for The Art Newspaper, as well as a regular correspondent for publications such as the Guardian and Monocle. Previously, she worked with the London dealer Anthony d’Offay on special projects. For several years, she was a consultant at the cultural communications agency, Bolton & Quinn. She also worked at Hauser & Wirth in London.

Burns received a Masters degree (with Merit) from the Courtauld Institute in Art and Cultural Politics in Germany, 1890-1945, as well as a first-class B.A. honors degree in English and History of Art from Birmingham University. She moved to New York in 2010.

The live record

Behind the Scenes

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By Pablo Helguera

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 For more on Alison Gingeras, read here and here

For more on David Salle, read here and here


Where to look

Art by David Salle

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